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Hoplite Combat Guide

Below you'll find everything important to know about Hoplite Combat.

In a Nutshell

Pros

  • You can also use Skill Points (SP) from Spears to learn Hoplite Combat.
  • Six (6) double-hitting attacks, including the only Easy-difficulty multi-hitters.
  • Hoplite Combat Stance gives small bonus to shield bashes.
  • Both offensive (Rising Thrust) & defensive (Defensive Repel) stepping maneuvers.
  • Unique weapon & shield combination mechanics that impact both the speed and strength of your attacks.

Cons

  • While having a number of either-range maneuvers, Hoplite Combat is best-suited for close range combat.
  • More difficult to combine with Spears than one might think. You lose stance bonus for 1H Spear maneuvers and access to many of the more powerful Spears attacks.
  • Requires good skill with Shields, an additional skill set for most Spear users.
  • No notable defense from Hoplite Combat itself.

Additional Notes

  • Both (regular) spears and short spears can be used as weapons for Hoplite Combat. Use the 1wield command to wield a traditional spear in one hand for use with Hoplite combat.

Advice & Tips

Weapons

This is the list of short spears that can be used by the Hoplite Combat skill set.

In addition to the below list, spears included in the Spears Guide can be used. For a list of all available shields to use, see the Shields Guide.

Weapons How to get it Est. cost in shops
A tin-tipped short spear [RF] Sold by Marinian 1,000d
A bronze-tipped short spear [RF] Sold by Marinian 3t
An iron-tipped short spear [RF] Sold by Hiltha 50t + Reputation
An alanti-tipped short spear [RF] Currently available only from GMNPC vendors
A boison-tipped short spear [RF] Sold by Hiltha 175t + Reputation
A retalq-tipped short spear Sold by Hiltha 250t + Reputation

[RF]: This item can be Re-Forged by Ferrarius.

Summary

In most cases, you'll want a Retalq Spear & Towering Shield.

A rank of 1 signifies the best in this category.

Weapon Damage Rank Speed Rank Weight Rank Overall Rank
A tin-tipped short spear = = = =
A bronze-tipped short spear = = = =
An iron-tipped short spear = = = =
[Reforged] An iron-tipped short spear = = = =
A boison-tipped short spear = = = =
[Reforged] A boison-tipped short spear = = = =
A retalq-tipped short spear = = = =

Weapon Damage

A rank of 1 signifies the best in this category.

Weapon Damage Rank
A retalq-tipped short spear =
[Reforged] A boison-tipped short spear =
A boison-tipped short spear =
[Reforged] An iron-tipped short spear =
An iron-tipped short spear =
A bronze-tipped short spear =
A tin-tipped short spear =

Weapon Speed

A rank of 1 signifies the best in this category.

>> Rank 90 Reflexes >> Maxed Speed
~ Weapon ~ Speed Rank ~ Average Speed ~ Speed Rank ~ Average Speed
A tin-tipped short spear = = = =
A bronze-tipped short spear = = = =
An iron-tipped short spear = = = =
A boison-tipped short spear = = = =
A retalq-tipped short spear = = = =

Weapon round time with outstanding speed (190+):

Weapon and Shield Most Attacks Rotating Bash Lunge and Strike &
Stab and Swing
Bash and Jab &
Slam and Thrust
Basic Attack Feint
wood spear w/ any shield
tin short spear w/ any shield
alanti spear w/ any shield
alanti short spear w/ any shield
retalq spear w/ any shield
retalq short spear w/ any shield
1 + MoS 2 + MoS 2 + MoS 2 + MoS 2 + MoS 1 + MoS
boison spear w/ light shield
boison short spear w/ light shield
iron short spear w/ light shield
2 + MoS 2 + MoS 2 + MoS 3 + MoS 2 + MoS 1 + MoS
boison spear w/ heavy shield
boison short spear w/ heavy shield
iron spear w/ heavy shield
2 + MoS 2 + MoS 3 + MoS 3 + MoS 2 + MoS 1 + MoS

Notes:
* "Most Attacks" include Phalanx Thrust, Shielded Stab, Rising Thrust, Defensive Repel, Shielded Advance, Underhand Thrust, Leaping Thrust, Sweep and Thrust, Spinning Chop, and Whirling Strike.
* "light shields" include bronze buckler, reed shield, wooden buckler, iron round shield, Kelestian round shield w/ metal boss,
* "heavy shields" include hide shield, Iridine wall shield, Kelestian triangle shield, Kelestian towering shield, towering oval shield,
* "any shield" includes both light and heavy shields

Weapon Weight

Weapon Weight
A tin short spear ~3 lbs
A bronze short spear ~4 lbs
An alanti short spear
An iron short spear
A boison short spear 4.2 lbs
A retalq short spear 3.3 lbs

Moves

Best Options

  • Lunge and Strike - A highly-bonused impossible-difficulty double-hitting attack. High damage and high crit-rate.
  • Leaping Thrust - A highly-bonused attack that aims high by default.
  • Whirling Strike - A highly-bonused double-hitting attack.
  • Bash and Jab - A highly-bonused easy-difficulty double-hitting attack with good damage.
  • Phalanx Thrust - Easy maneuver with favorable block matchups against some weapons.
  • Sweep and Thrust - A combined sweep & strike maneuver with a small bonus to hit. Must be trained to high levels to achieve a high chance of knockdown.

Worthwhile

  • Shielded Stab - Easy maneuver that hits twice, but is fairly simple to dodge or block.
  • Shielded Advance - A good utility maneuver that engages the target and automatically disengages a random enemy if you were already fully surrounded.
  • Rising Thrust - A stepping maneuver that enters a more aggressive stance as part of the attack.
  • Defensive Repel - A stepping maneuver that enters a more defensive stance as part of the attack, and also retreats from the target.

Less useful

  • Underhand Thrust - An average attack with no special bonuses, and which is fairly easy for most weapons to block.
  • Rotating Bash - An average attack with no special bonuses, and which is fairly easy for most weapons to block.
  • Stab and Swing - Average attack that has a penalty to hit.
  • Spinning Chop - Difficult attack that has a small penalty to hit.
  • Slam and Thrust - Difficult attack that does very good damage but has a penalty to hit.

Complementary Skill Sets

Complementary Traits

Miscellaneous

  • TBD